Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/10/1997 01:02 PM House JUD

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HB 120 - STATE IMMUNITY FROM SUIT IN FED COURT                                 
                                                                               
Number 100                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN JOE GREEN advised members they would first consider HB
120, "An Act relating to the power of the attorney general to                  
waive immunity from suit in federal court; and providing for an                
effective date."                                                               
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN invited Representative Hudson, prime sponsor, to                
address the committee.                                                         
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BILL HUDSON, Prime Sponsor of HB 120, expressed                 
that it had just recently come known that legislative action was               
necessary in order to protect a broader interest that the state                
had.                                                                           
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON explained that the Eleventh Amendment of                 
the U.S. Constitution prohibits suits against states in federal                
court for damages brought by citizens of the state.  He pointed                
out that recent decisions of the United States District Court for              
the District of Alaska had prohibited the attorney general from                
waiving the state's Eleventh Amendment immunity from suit without              
express authority from the legislature.  Representative Hudson                 
stated that although the attorney general had statutory authority              
to represent the state in all civil actions in which the state                 
was a party, there was no specific legislative authority to waive              
the Eleventh Amendment immunity where it was in the state's best               
interest to do so.                                                             
                                                                               
Representative Eric Croft arrived.                                             
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON advised members that from time to time,                  
there were cases where it would be procedurally advantageous for               
the state to waive that immunity and have a case heard in federal              
court.  HB 120 addressed one case the state would like to be a                 
party of, and Representative Hudson stated that a proposed                     
amendment would include one other case that the state felt it                  
should become a party to.                                                      
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON advised members that the first case was                  
addressed in the original language of HB 120.  The United States               
was being sued by plaintiffs in Alaska to seek judgment that the               
United States owns the tidelands in the Tongass National Forest.               
Representative Hudson reiterated the need to waive the Eleventh                
Amendment immunity clause in order for the state to become party               
to that suit to determine the state's title to the lands in                    
dispute.  Representative Hudson explained that the only way the                
state could litigate title to those tidelands was by joining as a              
defendant in                                                                   
the case.  The Quite Title Act requires that the United States                 
claim an interest in the disputed property, and in this                        
particular case, the United States had carefully avoided taking                
any formal position as to whether it believes it, or the state,                
has title to the tidelands in question.  He stated that by                     
joining as a defendant, the state would secure the opportunity to              
establish title to lands the state believes it owns.                           
                                                                               
Representative Norman Rokeberg arrived.                                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON advised members that the second case                     
involved tort claims where the state and the federal government                
were both, potentially, responsible.  Representative Hudson                    
explained that it would be necessary to waive the state's                      
Eleventh Amendment immunity in order to pursue that issue in                   
federal court as well.  He pointed out that if the state was                   
unable to waive the Eleventh Amendment and appear and defend in                
federal court, the state would lose its ability to have a fair                 
allocation of fault among all responsible parties.                             
                                                                               
Number 439                                                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON concluded pointing out that the purpose of               
HB 120 was to ask the state legislature to allow the attorney                  
general to give the state's consent to appear in federal court as              
a defendant in a case that involves the state's title to                       
submerged lands.  The proposed amendment would further enable the              
attorney general to waive the Eleventh Amendment immunity, and                 
litigate in federal court, in cases where the state seeks to                   
allocate fault to the federal government, or a federal employee                
under AS 09.17.080.                                                            
                                                                               
Number 586                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if the proposed legislation would create the              
potential for opening the state up to civil litigation, other                  
than the two intended cases, during the time period the Eleventh               
Amendment immunity is granted.                                                 
                                                                               
JOANNE GRACE, Assistant Attorney General, Natural Resources                    
Section, Civil Division, Department of Law, testified via                      
teleconference from Anchorage.  In response to Chairman Green's                
question, Ms. Grace felt the legislature would be granting the                 
attorney general the authority to consider entering in on a case               
by case basis, but only in a couple of narrow circumstances.  She              
pointed out that the authority provided would only be in effect                
until the sunset clause went into effect.  Ms. Grace went on to                
say that she did not think it would induce plaintiffs to sue the               
state in federal court that they otherwise would not have,                     
because the circumstances were so unusual.                                     
                                                                               
Number 860                                                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN BERKOWITZ asked if there was a reason for                 
not specifying the names of the two individual cases in the                    
proposed legislation.  He felt that would appear to be the most                
limited way to address the issue.                                              
                                                                               
MS. GRACE could not respond directly to that question; however,                
did not feel it would make a difference because the intent was                 
for those two specific cases.  If Representative Berkowitz would               
be more comfortable with language that would specifically name                 
the two cases at issue, Ms. Grace did not feel the Attorney                    
General's Office would have a problem with doing that.  The                    
submerged lands case was Peratrovich v. United States, A92-734 CV              
(HRH).                                                                         
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ERIC CROFT stated that it was his understanding                 
that it involved a jurisdictional issue, and the legislature                   
would not be changing the law that would be applied, but simply                
waiving the state's right to object to appearing in a particular               
forum.                                                                         
                                                                               
MS. GRACE stated that was exactly correct.  She went on to                     
explain that the federal court did not have jurisdiction to hear               
a case brought by a citizen against the state unless the state                 
waives its Eleventh Amendment immunity.                                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE CROFT expressed that the state would be applying                
the same substantive legal principles, whether federal or state,               
or a combination, to the case after immunity is waived than they               
would have before.                                                             
                                                                               
MS. GRACE stated that it was simply a procedural issue, but if                 
the Eleventh Amendment immunity were not waived, there would not               
be a case.                                                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE CROFT stated that with that in mind, he would not               
share the concern expressed by Representative Berkowitz because                
it appeared to be a tactical concern that the attorney general                 
was perfectly able to handle, as to whether he wants to appear in              
one court or another.                                                          
                                                                               
Number 1095                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER referenced lines 8 and 9, "The time                
limitation on the attorney general's power to waive the state's                
immunity under this subsection does not affect such a waiver                   
given before January 1, 1999."  He noted that through research,                
it was his understanding that what was being proposed was that                 
the waiver, on the two specific cases at issue, would remain in                
effect if litigation exceeded the date of January 1, 1999.                     
                                                                               
MS. GRACE advised members that would be correct.                               
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER asked Ms. Grace if there was any reason why              
that language could not be amended to read more clearly.  Ms.                  
Grace stated that any language the committee felt would make the               
statement more clear would be fine with the Attorney General's                 
Office.                                                                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE asked if the Peratrovich case related in              
any way to the Dinkum Sands case.                                              
                                                                               
MS. GRACE advised members that the Peratrovich case would involve              
some of the very same issues involved in the Dinkum Sands case,                
as well as the PL-082 case.  She explained that those were                     
ongoing disputes between the State of Alaska and the United                    
States as to whether particular reservations that the federal                  
government created before statehood defeated the state's equal                 
footing doctrine interests in those submerged lands.                           
                                                                               
MS. GRACE stated that in the Dinkum Sands case the pre-statehood               
reservations were the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska                     
(NPRA), and the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), whereas                
the Peratrovich case involved the Tongass National Forest.  The                
PL-082 case, a reservation in Northern Alaska, was also in                     
dispute with the United States relating to pre-statehood                       
reservations.  Ms. Grace stated that between those cases, there                
were general legal issues that were common, so that anytime the                
state litigates one of those cases it would set a precedent for                
the other cases that are unresolved.                                           
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN stated that it was his understanding that there                 
was not a problem between the state and the federal government                 
regarding Dinkum Sands; that it was whether or not it existed as               
an island from which to draw a three-mile arc which could create               
an enclave.                                                                    
                                                                               
MS. GRACE expressed that she may have used Dinkum Sands somewhat               
loosely, pointing out that that case was actually United States                
v. State of Alaska, that involved four separate issues, of which               
one was the Dinkum Sands issue.                                                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN referenced the language Representative Porter felt              
could be clarified and asked Ms. Grace if she could provide                    
language for the committee's consideration.                                    
                                                                               
MS. GRACE advised members she would give it some thought, adding               
that the intent was to preclude the United States from arguing                 
that the attorney general would lose his authority of the waiver               
in those particular cases once he exercised his authority.                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE JEANNETTE JAMES moved to adopt Amendment 1, HB
120, page 1, line 6, following the word "lands," insert, or in                 
any case in which the state seeks to allocate fault to the                     
federal government or a federal employee under AS 09.17.080,.                  
There being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted unanimously.                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE CROFT noted that the amendment had nothing to do                
with the Peratrovich case, and asked if there was a time limit                 
involved with the other cases as referenced in the amendment.                  
                                                                               
SUSAN COX, Assistant Attorney General, Special Litigation                      
Section, Civil Division, Department of Law, advised members that               
the posture of the Smith case mentioned in the backup                          
documentation for the amendment, was such that a motion to add                 
federal defendants was being filed this date, 02/11/97, in State               
Superior Court in Bethel.  She advised members that they                       
expected, once the motion is served, that the federal defendants               
and a federal contractor would seek to have the case removed to                
federal court where the state would then be faced with the                     
Peratrovich case.  Ms. Cox stated that the department anticipated              
that within several weeks to a month they would be looking at a                
situation in which the federal court would be wondering whether                
it has jurisdiction over the claims against the state.                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN advised members HB 120 would be considered the                  
following day at noon in order to clarify the language on lines 8              
and 9 of the original bill.                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE NORMAN ROKEBERG pointed out that the legislature                
waived its rules in order to consider HB 120 in an expedited                   
manner and felt the Attorney General's Office should be aware of               
that.                                                                          
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN advised members they would next consider the                    
appointment of Barbara Brink as the state's public defender.                   
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ declared a possible conflict of interest              
because he has been a friend of Ms. Brink's for some time.                     
                                                                               
CONFIRMATION HEARING BARBARA BRINK, ALASKA PUBLIC DEFENDER                     
                                                                               
Number 1740                                                                    
                                                                               
BARBARA BRINK, Acting Public Defender, Department of                           
Administration, advised members she was seeking confirmation of                
that position.  Ms. Brink expressed that she had the experience,               
the desire and the skills to do a good job for the citizens of                 
Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                               
MS. BRINK advised members that she had been an assistant public                
defender since the early 1980s, and was appointed Deputy Director              
of the Public Defender Agency by the State Public Defender at                  
that time, John Salemi, in 1988.                                               
                                                                               
MS. BRINK informed members that the agency would be submitting a               
capital project request for the purchase of legal research tools;              
CD Rom, Brief Banks, Motion Banks, computer hardware and software              
to allow communication with lawyers throughout the state and                   
country.                                                                       
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN noted that Ms. Brink would be making a transition               
from actual trial work to administrative work and asked how that               
transition might affect her.                                                   
                                                                               
Number 2020                                                                    
                                                                               
MS. BRINK stated that over the past eight years she had had the                
opportunity to be involved in both case-work and administrative                
responsibilities.  She did not know if she would be able to                    
continue to represent clients; however, she felt that was a                    
valuable tool to keep abreast of what was occurring in the                     
trenches, and to have an understanding of what the courts, the                 
clients and her staff were doing.                                              
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES asked Ms. Brink how much money the agency                 
would be requesting in capital funds, and how those funds would                
be expended.                                                                   
                                                                               
MS. BRINK's response was that they would be requesting                         
approximately $200,000 for purchase of computer hardware for the               
purpose of networking the agency's rural offices and the next                  
largest offices which range in size from four to six lawyers.                  
Ms. Brink stated that the agency would also like to have Internet              
capabilities in the Anchorage office.  She stated that the four                
single lawyer offices would be networked to the entire system.                 
Ms. Brink noted that the Department of Administration supported                
the capital fund request and were considering having a local                   
network person, from the department, assist in the planning                    
stages and implementation of the project.                                      
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE addressed the rate of recidivism among the                
clients represented by the public defenders office and asked Ms.               
Brink if she had any suggestion on how to reduce that rate.  He                
also noted the concern of victim's rights not being held on an                 
equal level with criminal rights, and if Ms. Brink might respond               
to that.                                                                       
                                                                               
MS. BRINK felt that a lot of the proposals she had heard among                 
different committees sounded very promising.  She stated that the              
idea of having more localized community effort and input, not                  
only regarding punishment, but dispute resolutions was an idea                 
whose time had definitely come.  Ms. Brink pointed out that that               
concept had proven to be workable in the Anchorage and Mat-Su                  
youth courts.                                                                  
MS. BRINK, with respect to victim's rights, expressed that the                 
state had made strides in having victims feel and be more a part               
of the adjudication process.  She felt that as the trial court                 
judge is given the ability to waive those competing concerns and               
assess which interest must take priority at a given moment, that               
they would continue to have a fair system.                                     
                                                                               
TAPE 97-12, SIDE B                                                             
Number 000                                                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG referenced a document submitted in the                 
backup from John Holmes, Esquire and asked if Ms. Brink would                  
provide comments on Mr. Holmes opposition to her appointment as                
State Public Defender.                                                         
                                                                               
MS. BRINK advised members that John Holmes was a former assistant              
public defender who worked in the Ketchikan and Kotzebue office.               
She felt the letter reflected a deep philosophy of his, of which               
the two of them had had long conversations about.  Ms. Brink                   
pointed out that Mr. Holmes felt that the best way to represent a              
defendant in the criminal justice system was to take the                       
anarchist approach.  She explained that he would concede nothing;              
file every motion under the sun, and be oppositional at every                  
turn.  Ms. Brink noted that Mr. Holmes felt that that was the                  
best method of serving his clients.  Ms. Brink agreed that that                
was one approach; however, not one she had adopted.                            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG referenced a letter of recommendation                  
from what appeared to be a colleague of Ms. Brink's and asked if               
she felt it was appropriate to write that letter on the agency's               
letterhead.                                                                    
                                                                               
MS. BRINK felt it was not appropriate to use public defender                   
stationery for the purpose of expressing a personal opinion.                   
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE CROFT pointed out that Mr. Holmes appeared to                   
oppose all candidates for the position of State Public Defender.               
                                                                               
MS. BRINK felt Mr. Holmes' concerns came from the heart, adding                
that he was a dedicated public defender and he felt his way was                
the best way to deal with a system he viewed as unfair.                        
                                                                               
Number 465                                                                     
                                                                               
JOHNNY GRAVES advised members that he believed there was a gender              
bias against males in the court system, and law enforcement,                   
generally.  He also felt the public defenders office and the                   
district attorneys office had too close a relationship, noting                 
that in some cases it appeared they were actually working                      
together against a defendant.  Mr. Graves requested the newly                  
appointed public defender to check into those concerns.                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER advised members that to him, the                         
appointment of Ms. Brink as the State Public Defender was                      
extremely appropriate, and it was his hope Ms. Brink would                     
maintain her point of view and strong commitment to the charge                 
and function of the public defender's office.                                  
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER moved that the Governor's appointment of                 
Barbara Brink as the State Public Defender be moved out of                     
committee and on to the Joint Floor Session for confirmation                   
purposes.                                                                      
                                                                               

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